• Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
permaculture forums growies critters building homesteading energy monies kitchen purity ungarbage community wilderness fiber arts art permaculture artisans regional education skip experiences global resources cider press projects digital market permies.com pie forums private forums all forums
this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including ...
master stewards:
  • r ranson
  • Carla Burke
  • Nancy Reading
  • John F Dean
  • Jay Angler
  • paul wheaton
stewards:
  • Pearl Sutton
  • Burra Maluca
  • Joseph Lofthouse
master gardeners:
  • Timothy Norton
  • Christopher Weeks
gardeners:
  • Jeremy VanGelder
  • Maieshe Ljin
  • Nina Surya

Herbs for a natural blood thinner?

 
steward
Posts: 16798
Location: USDA Zone 8a
4367
dog hunting food preservation cooking bee greening the desert
  • Likes 3
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Are there herbs that are a natural blood thinner?

I thought I was having a gout attack that wasn't going away.

The PA at the clinic thinks it is a blood clot and is running more tests and scheduling an ultrasound.

What foods or herbs act as a natural blood thinner?
 
Posts: 144
Location: Western Kentucky - Zone 7
21
forest garden woodworking
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
When you're dealing with something that can kill you, please listen to the doctors and what they prescribe. I think herbs are amazing and wonderful things, but when it comes to life and death, layman's mistakes can be deadly.
 
Steward of Piddlers
Posts: 5150
Location: Upstate NY, Zone 5, 43 inch Avg. Rainfall
2286
monies home care dog fungi trees chicken food preservation cooking building composting homestead
  • Likes 6
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
My grandfather developed an issue with A-Fib where he would pop in and out of it in his mid eighties. He struggled with coumadin when they first started to approach the issue.

His healthcare team found a balance with a clinical blood thinner supplemented with a turmeric tea. My grandfather is also fond of his dark leafy greens which have a history of messing with blood thinners.

Clots are no joke, your health is in my thoughts.
 
Anne Miller
steward
Posts: 16798
Location: USDA Zone 8a
4367
dog hunting food preservation cooking bee greening the desert
  • Likes 3
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator

Kevin Goheen wrote:When you're dealing with something that can kill you, please listen to the doctors and what they prescribe. I think herbs are amazing and wonderful things, but when it comes to life and death, layman's mistakes can be deadly.



Yes, I am following the advise I was given.  Waiting for an appointment to get an ultrasound.

In the mean time, I thought this might be an intersting question.
 
Anne Miller
steward
Posts: 16798
Location: USDA Zone 8a
4367
dog hunting food preservation cooking bee greening the desert
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator

Timothy Norton wrote:My grandfather developed an issue with A-Fib where he would pop in and out of it in his mid eighties. He struggled with coumadin when they first started to approach the issue.

His healthcare team found a balance with a clinical blood thinner supplemented with a turmeric tea. My grandfather is also fond of his dark leafy greens which have a history of messing with blood thinners.

Clots are no joke, your health is in my thoughts.



Thank you, Timothy

I have turmeric so i will take that until I can get the ultrasound and the results of the blood test to see if it is a blood clot.
 
gardener
Posts: 276
Location: S. New England
154
fungi foraging trees chicken bee wood heat homestead
  • Likes 6
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Hi Anne:

I was recently researching the benefits of Lion's mane mushroom and recall an artical that mentioned it may act as a blood-thinner or anticoagulant ...I couldn't find the original article, but the following link seems to corroborate the finding:

https://www.health.com/lions-mane-mushroom-benefits-7555400

Potential Drug Interactions
Lion’s mane mushroom may have antiplatelet effects, meaning it prevents blood clots from forming. This could increase your risk for bleeding, especially when used with anticoagulant medications, or blood thinners.


I'm not a MD, so please don't construe this as medical advice.

Hoping this helps you and your physician determine a course of action and you feel better soon.
 
steward & manure connoisseur
Posts: 4257
Location: South of Capricorn
2284
dog rabbit urban cooking writing homestead ungarbage
  • Likes 5
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
i know i've read about garlic and ginger offering potential for blood thinning.
but if it were me or my mother in your shoes, waiting for results and information, quite frankly I think I would take aspirin while I waited for more info, assuming I didn't have any danger from bleeding or any stomach issues.

It's something relatively low risk and I'm pretty sure you could find a natural preparation of Salix (or a recipe for one) instead of industrial aspirin if you preferred.

I hope you get some good solutions, from any and all sides, and some quick positive resolution.
 
Anne Miller
steward
Posts: 16798
Location: USDA Zone 8a
4367
dog hunting food preservation cooking bee greening the desert
  • Likes 3
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I know I saw the bottle of turmeric just the other day though a quick search as not had good results.

I have a lifetime's worth of aspirin since dear hubby was taken off regular aspirin and put on the baby aspirin.

Thank you Tereza.
 
out to pasture
Posts: 12662
Location: Portugal
3639
goat dog duck forest garden books wofati bee solar rocket stoves greening the desert
  • Likes 6
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
From what I remember, if you take anything 'natural' to thin the blood before you have the tests to see how long your blood takes to clot, then the dose of medicine you are prescribed will automatically allow for those natural blood thinners. And if you later stop taking them, then the dose will no longer be sufficient. So you will need to be consistent!
 
gardener
Posts: 169
Location: Insko, Poland zone 7a
171
cattle purity forest garden fish fungi foraging chicken food preservation bee homestead ungarbage
  • Likes 5
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Wood Ear mushroom has potent blood thinner effects.  

Here is Paul Stamets talking about it:

 
Rusticator
Posts: 8925
Location: Missouri Ozarks
4785
6
personal care gear foraging hunting rabbit chicken cooking food preservation fiber arts medical herbs homestead
  • Likes 8
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
White willow and hawthorn both have blood thinning properties, Hawthorne strengthens the heart, passionflower strengthens and helps elasticize the walls of the veins & arteries. I've been giving these to my husband, and taking them myself, for several years. He was tired of all the nasty side effects of the prescriptions from his heart attacks, and has no side effects from the herbs, and feels better. For me, it's entirely preventative.

DISCLAIMER: I am NOT a doctor or other medical professional. I neither diagnose nor treat anyone. I do not sell or promote any product or herbs for medical treatment. I am ONLY sharing my experiences. Please do your own research, before acting on anything I've said.
 
Posts: 39
5
  • Likes 8
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Lots on cayenne pepper- do your research
 
Anne Miller
steward
Posts: 16798
Location: USDA Zone 8a
4367
dog hunting food preservation cooking bee greening the desert
  • Likes 10
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I want to thank everyone for the advice.

My blood pressure was very high so I took an aspirin twice a day.

My blood pressure last night was 134/72 so I did not take any more aspirin.

I do not have a blood clot according to the ultrasound.

I am just waiting to hear back from the PA to see what is going on with my bloodwork.
 
Tereza Okava
steward & manure connoisseur
Posts: 4257
Location: South of Capricorn
2284
dog rabbit urban cooking writing homestead ungarbage
  • Likes 4
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
no blood clot is a good thing, I would think!

Hope the rest of your results come out soon with something easily fixed.
 
  • Likes 4
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I am juicing beets with carrots, celery, parsley and whatever i want to add for variety, usually dark leafy greens for more health benefits. Beets will fortify, rebuild and purify your blood of any toxins, even heavy metals, thinning it to SAFE LEVELS, parsley root will care for your urinary tract, no more infections and stones or any of that, carrots take care of you melanin and your vision, apples your digestive system including gout celery hydrates your body and oxygenates your cells and has lots of great minerals and enzymes, juicing vegetables is amazing and has helped me so much, even maintaining my healthy weight, I hope you try it. Also look up Andrew Lessman supplements very pure and potentr no filers and junk in them but also affordable.
 
moose poop looks like football shaped elk poop. About the size of this tiny ad:
The Wisdom of Communities - 4 volume set
https://permies.com/wiki/234866/ic-org/Wisdom-Communities-volume-set
reply
    Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
OSZAR »